Sunday, 7 October 2007

Look at me mam I'm king of the blog


The standard Kilogram is apparently getting lighter but as it is the standard the kilogram is getting lighter. When you fish a lot you get to be able to guess the wieght of fish - this allowed me to get to within a few pounds on all my babies. When you do a lot of plumding your wrists become more like a tork wrench and you learn how tight to do up compression fittings so they don't leak. The body learns how to measure things finer through experience so how much salt to put on food or how much marmite to put on toast. Is it the body as a frame of reference rather than an imposed scale - like the rulers and pecks and chains - do these seem more human as they are based on an older archaic system? Do you want me to dig out the measurments makes things real artical from ne scientist? As I'm now self elected king of the Blog I include the cast white breakfast for discussion.

4 comments:

Tim Neal said...

So what is the point of this image - it is nice for a start - tastes good on the eyes. I think its all the better for being white. You'd never believe it if it was the colour of real food - all yellow and browns. Issues appear to have arisen as to what if anything exists before the thing itself exists. In other words perhaps is there a reality to an object that is divorced from its achival being. When put like this the answer is surely - yes. That's because I've not formulated it as I should have done. However it's a shot at it. The plate is potentially a real one. Or it may be a cast. The food is I suspect a cast. It doesn't matter. They look that way and Steve's got the bill for the plaster too. What matters is that there is no interest in their weight unless they are to be eaten and their calories counted in a really basic fashion. Even then someone would say, God that's too much to eat, informed by coporeal memory of how good it really tasted with all that fat and salt or how bad the stomach ache was with all that fat and salt. The weight does matter then. The measurement does matter. It is of concern. It is the thing against which this plate and its decor are measured without which they have no weight themselves. At the same time I can see that this plate is without measurement. This however only in the sense that it is concieved outside of itself. I mean that there is no deliberation in its conception. It is immaculate. Unconsidered. Without peer. Then it becomes a measure of something else at this point. It gets its own life that has nothing to do with you becuase you didn't give it birth. You are not the author. Now of course if you are you must own up...

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kate g said...

i kinda agree in the fact its white, your brain makes up the rest., but not sure this is what steve wants, i.e he wanted hyper real, so depends on the makers ability to paint, to trick., so not a case of believing totally maybe just enough? dont know.
In terms of the plate, in this context i agree it appears the easy option , a further trick but a bit of a cheap one, Yes the plate if not cast is wrong, but against the sweet rock breakfast what do you do? maybe the plates need to be true to the breakfast, in that it was paper for the rock one, cast for this.

spodsheff said...

Plate needs to be cast to refer back to original inspiration in artemis with cast plastic trencher - I'm interested in the motif not the thing - so the plate becomes a plinth something to set the representation on - Casting the plate came from the making as it has a fine chip on it which I was keen to see repeated and in a literal way it's a reminder that "None of this is real". I like the cast but it looks to much like something you would draw at artcollege at the turn of the century like those cones and cubes and the mouth or nose of David which is interesting but binary fluthing and not allowable. The black breakfast may work in a different way as it removes this reference and will flatten it - also it signifies choice and the fact that nothing is arbitary - the white is just the colour of the resin. I don't think I'll use the cast for the third breakfast as what I want is a cut out shape breakfast somebody elses 3 dimensional representation of breakfast bought from a shop - position on the plate is interesting - it feels to be moving into ontology and philosphy - a bit when is a hammer a brick kind of shite - I want it to be more practical Barny said it was Socratic which I think means anserwing questions through posing them - bringing people to a point where they can find their own understanding by encouraging them to question their own belief but I'm not sure what he meant really the clever shit - It's a clear aesthetic thing going on as I think regardles of thinking to repeat the cast will not really look right it needs to be a new thing which presents somebody elses attempt to conjour the "common sense" breakfast like the rock. The original plate looks wrong and stops the eye flowing from one to the next it stops the juxtaposition and just presents two things side by side and suggest that the thing will be a curio rather than an Homogenus peice.

Tim Neal said...

It doesn't much matter to me whether it is cast or not I guess as despite the title I thought the breakfast was painted or sprayed. Really I think Steve's point about drawing and art college gets to a point about this that funnels in the outside world with a big gushing noise that drowns the rest out. Aesthetics are horribly recognisable. Pleasure is too. Not by everybody but by some(one). I liked the photo. It's nice. It fits a set of images that I recognise as already-having-been-giving pleasure or some such turn of phrase to indicate that they are already there. Why am I saying this? Because there seems to lie the problem - the already having been done of it. Breakfast is eaten. I was there. You didn't finish yours. So hard to word it. So yes I agree with you it becomes a curio. Like I wrote - have you have owned up to being the author.